Is  Pakistan Exporting Terrorism To The Rest Of The World? The “Uncensored” Excerpts

The brief armed conflict between India and Pakistan in May 2025 caused a lot of problems between the two nations, which has led people to have various types of opinions about the matter.  

The Pahalgam attack had led to the conflict between the nations. The Pahalgam attack on 22nd April 2025 claimed the lives of more than 26 Indians. 

As Kashmir was finally at the stage of having normalcy, tourists from all parts of the world and the rest of the country started visiting the place. 

The influx of tourists brought prosperity to the state of Jammu and Kashmir. However, on 22nd May, several gunmen asked the religious identities of the tourists, after which they shot people based on their religious identities. 

The terrorists even forced the tourists to chant certain religious scripts to confirm their spiritual identities. 

Moreover, this sparked outrage throughout the nation in India, and it also brings us to the question of Pakistan Exporting Terrorism.

Piers Morgan, the famous British political commentator, conducted a discussion with several distinguished guests on his show, “Uncensored”.  

Who Were The Guests On The Uncensored Episode?

Several prominent guests and experts joined the show, which also featured distinguished journalist Barkha Dutt and influencers from both countries, including Ranveer Allahbadia and Shazad Ghias Saikh. 

The retired four-star US General Wesley Clark also joined the panel discussion, along with Hina Rabbani Khar, the former foreign affairs minister of Pakistan. 

Moreover, it turned out to be a very heated confrontation between those who were from the Pakistani side and those who were from the Indian side. 

Therefore, General Clark responded to the question of “Pakistan Exporting Terrorism” with neutrality. 

What Was Discussed In The Show? Pakistan Exporting Terrorism

Moreover, there was intense discussion between the Indian side and the Pakistani side. However, here is a summary of the talks that were conducted. 

1. What Did General Clark Say about The Entire Conflict Between India And Pakistan? 

Piers Morgan started the entire confrontation, seeming to be calm initially. However, in recent times, there has been a “flare-up in the sky”. 

Moreover, General Clark talked about when India and Pakistan had almost gone to war, when he had to host the Pakistani Army Generals.  

The host of the show, Piers Morgan, asked General Clark if he believes that the terrorist organization operating in Pakistan works with the Defense Forces of Pakistan. 

General Clark replied to this while suggesting that, moreover, it is a bit of both situations. The retired General believes that there are some elements that the Pak Army does not control.  

On the other hand, certain other groups operate closely with Pakistan. Moreover, General Clark believes that Pakistani leadership wants to keep pressure on India with the help of Terrorist outfits. 

Mover General Clark believes it has to be the logical response of India to assume that this was a “premeditated and prepared action” by the Pakistani Army. 

Moreover, the General thinks that Pakistan has its angst over Kashmir, and to solve that, they have often stooped down. 

The General also said that Pakistan should take action against these Terrorist Groups publicly and openly.  

2. What Did Barkha Dutt Have To Say About The Entire Situation?

Barkha Dutt mentioned that since the entire terrorist attack had taken place, Barkha Dutt has been covering the issues of Kashmir. Barkha spent the first two weeks on grounds after the terror attack, and she has been to different locations of Kashmir and also parts of the Punjab border areas. 

Moreover, Barkha Dutt emphasized how Pakistan had tried to attack the civilian areas of India. Dutt then pointed out that this led the Indian Army to target the air bases of Pakistan. 

However, the Pakistani side dialed the Indian authorities after their air bases took serious damage. 

However, before talking about Kashmir, Barkha Dutt went on to respond to General Clark. Barkha Dutt expressed her irritation about the Western world and the Western media regarding the “jihadists and Terrorists”. 

She also made it clear that the two bases which got targeted by India were the bases of Lashkar and Jaish.  

Barkha reminded the viewers about the fact that the Lashkar is, moreover, recognized as a terrorist group by the UK as well as the USA. 

She also talked about the story of the plane that was hijacked for the release of the Jaish terrorist. 

Moreover, Dutt emphasized the fact that the Pakistanis had indulged in exporting terrorism, and despite that, the Western media often puts up with a bothsidesism. 

Barkha also conveyed how terrorists like Masood Azhar and Omar Sayed Saikh continue to enjoy “impunity” on Pakistani soil. 

Barkha also pointed out that Omar Sayed Sheik went on to behead Daniel Pearl. However, he still stays in a Pakistani safe house after he was acquitted of the murder charges by the Pakistani Supreme Court. 

3. Why Did Hina Rabbani Say That “Pakistan Does not Want To Be At Par With India”

Piers Morgan, the host of the show, quoted the statement by Prime Minister Modi. “India is clear, terror and talks can not take place at the same time; terror and trade can not take place at the same time, Water and blood can not flow at the same time.” 

Moreover, Piers then asked Hina Rabbani Khan about her response to the statements of Barkha Dutt as well as Prime Minister Modi. 

Hina stated that she is proud to be a citizen of a state who had shown a lot of dignity against “extreme aggression, violence, and attacks” conducted in their territory. 

She went on to call India a “rogue state”. She also went on to say that she does not want any hyphenation with India, unlike the popular belief that Pakistan should always stay on par with India. 

Hina Rabbani also stated that Pakistan does not want to be hyphenated with a state that feels that it can declare war, and a country that can declare terrorists to exist somewhere and then go on strikes. 

Hina called India a “unilateral striker who does not believe in the concepts of UN regulations and others. 

4. Asking Hina Rabbani Khar To Put herself In The Shoes Of India: Pakistan Exporting Terrorism

Piers Morgan, the host of the show, asked Hina Rabbani how India should respond to the murder of 27 Indian Hindu men.” 

Hina Rabbani asked the host. Why is he not asking her about the Jaffar Express incident?  

Moreover, she further claimed that India had its fingerprints all over the Jaffar Express incident. 

Piers Morgan, the host of the show, responded to this while asking her to respond to his question, and then he would move on to the other questions. 

Piers also pointed out that he was talking about the ‘cattelist” for the entire situation. He further made it clear that the ones who were murdered were mostly “Hindu Men”. 

However, this led to an argument between the Host and Hina. Moreover, Hina responded to this while stating she was annoyed as she believed Piers “assumes” that there is no equivalence.  

Moreover, by equivalence, she meant between the Pakistanis being “murdered” and the murder of the Indians. 

However, while responding to this, Piers stated, “When did I assume anything?” 

Piers also reminded them that they were talking about what happened specifically in the last two weeks. Moreover, he was not really willing to indulge in any sort of whataboutery. 

He also stated that the debate was about what had happened in the last two weeks. Moreover, the conversation was not about the whole History of the conflict between India and Pakistan. 

Piers then asked her to put herself in the shoes of India and how she would have responded to it. 

However, Hina Rabbani did not respond significantly to the questions of “Pakistan Exporting Terrorism.” 

What Is The Big Jar’s Point Of View On This? 

Big Jar News believes that no single conflict should result in any sort of escalation between two nuclear powers.  

However, the citizens of the geopolitical world should understand that several terrorist organizations still operate in the Pakistan-occupied Kashmir. 

Moreover, Pakistan’s military as well as its economy lacks the capabilities to combat India in direct escalations. Hence, Pakistani authorities often pull out these shenanigans against India. 

Hina Rabbani Khar deflected from every relevant question that was asked to her related to Jaish and Lashkar.  

However, she responded with whataboutery to all those questions.  

Hence, it can not be denied that Pakistani authorities remain well-informed about the actions of the terrorist organizations. Moreover, most of the terrorist organizations operate from Pakistan. 

Moreover, Hina Rabbani did not present any evidence on the show related to the involvement of India in the Jaffar Express incident. 

The Western media mostly shows a two-sided approach to “Pakistan Exporting Terrorism”. However, Piers Morgan broke the conventions and asked some of the most serious questions to the Pakistani former foreign minister.  

Thus, Rabbani did not provide any significant response to the question of whether   

Ranveer Allahbaddia and Shazad Ghias Saikh later joined the conversation, which we shall cover in our next blog post. 

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